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NAIOP SFBA Podcast: Engage. Deliberate. Highlight.
The NAIOP San Francisco Bay Area Podcast, hosted by Drew Hess, Principal at Layline, brings you inside the conversations shaping commercial real estate today.
Each episode features candid discussions with industry leaders, developers, investors, policymakers, and innovators driving the future of the built environment. From market trends and investment strategies to leadership insights and policy impacts, the podcast delivers practical perspectives from professionals working at the center of the industry.
Produced by NAIOP SFBA, the podcast extends the chapter’s mission beyond events — connecting the commercial real estate community through thoughtful dialogue and shared expertise.
Listen for:
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Market trends and industry outlooks
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Leadership and career insights
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Bay Area real estate perspectives
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Policy and advocacy discussions
-
Conversations with influential CRE leaders
Follow, rate, and share to stay connected with the Bay Area commercial real estate community.
Learn more about NAIOP SFBA membership and programs at NAIOPSFBA.org.
NAIOP SFBA Podcast: Engage. Deliberate. Highlight.
The NAIOP San Francisco Bay Area Podcast, hosted by Drew Hess, Principal at Layline, brings you inside the conversations shaping commercial real estate today.
Each episode features candid discussions with industry leaders, developers, investors, policymakers, and innovators driving the future of the built environment. From market trends and investment strategies to leadership insights and policy impacts, the podcast delivers practical perspectives from professionals working at the center of the industry.
Produced by NAIOP SFBA, the podcast extends the chapter’s mission beyond events — connecting the commercial real estate community through thoughtful dialogue and shared expertise.
Listen for:
-
Market trends and industry outlooks
-
Leadership and career insights
-
Bay Area real estate perspectives
-
Policy and advocacy discussions
-
Conversations with influential CRE leaders
Follow, rate, and share to stay connected with the Bay Area commercial real estate community.
Learn more about NAIOP SFBA membership and programs at NAIOPSFBA.org.
Episodes

Monday Dec 18, 2023
Monday Dec 18, 2023
In this episode, Host, Dave Karol, Managing Director at Ridge Capital Investor interviews Todd Darling, COO of Acacia Capital, where he discusses the company's focus on multi-family real estate and its success in the western US market. He shares his background in the industry and how he transitioned from working for a large organization to a smaller private equity group. Todd also talks about the impact of the COVID-19 pandemic on the multifamily market and the opportunities it presents. He emphasizes the importance of understanding regulatory issues when underwriting deals and provides insights into the current state of the market. Lastly, He provides insight into surviving cycles, why he believes that being able to make mistakes is essential for emerging professionals, and why he remains bullish on the Bay Area and the entire West Coast.
Timestamps:
0:00 - Introduction
0:49 - Todd Darling's Background and Path to Acacia Capital
3:55 - Acacia Capital's Investment Strategy and Portfolio
9:20 - Impact of COVID-19 on Investment Strategies
11:31 - Acacia Capital's Recent Investment in Sunnyvale
12:41 - Regulatory Considerations and Market Dynamics
21:39 -Advice for Young Real Estate Professionals
23:37 -Closing Remarks
Learn more about NAIOP San Francisco Bay Area at www.naiopsfba.org

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