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NAIOP SFBA Podcast: Engage. Deliberate. Highlight.
The NAIOP San Francisco Bay Area Podcast, hosted by Drew Hess, Principal at Layline, brings you inside the conversations shaping commercial real estate today.
Each episode features candid discussions with industry leaders, developers, investors, policymakers, and innovators driving the future of the built environment. From market trends and investment strategies to leadership insights and policy impacts, the podcast delivers practical perspectives from professionals working at the center of the industry.
Produced by NAIOP SFBA, the podcast extends the chapter’s mission beyond events — connecting the commercial real estate community through thoughtful dialogue and shared expertise.
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Market trends and industry outlooks
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Leadership and career insights
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Bay Area real estate perspectives
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Policy and advocacy discussions
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Conversations with influential CRE leaders
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Learn more about NAIOP SFBA membership and programs at NAIOPSFBA.org.
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Thursday Nov 06, 2025
Thursday Nov 06, 2025
In this episode, we sit down with Matthew Hargrove, President & CEO of the California Business Properties Association (CBPA), for a clear and high-level look at how advocacy shapes commercial real estate in California. Matt breaks down what’s really happening in Sacramento—from AB 98 and its cleanup legislation to CEQA updates, leasing bills, building code reforms, and the day-to-day work of navigating more than 2,500 bills each session.
He also shares why member engagement matters, how to build meaningful relationships with policymakers, common misconceptions about advocacy, and why he remains optimistic about the future of CRE in California.
Timestamps are included below to help listeners easily jump to the sections and policy topics most relevant to them.
00:00 – Intro & CBPA overview
07:00 – How advocacy works in Sacramento
15:00 – AB 98 & the cleanup bill (SB 415)
23:00 – Leasing bills, SB 1103 & tenant protections
27:00 – CEQA, housing & building code reform
35:00 – Day-to-day wins & bill fixes
38:00 – What keeps Matt up at night
40:00 – How members can engage (time, talent, treasure)
45:00 – PACs & political involvement
48:00 – Optimism for California & CRE
51:00 – Misconceptions & closing
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